Might means maybe, while probably means most likely. Omega was able to regenerate after a Big Bang Kamehameha from a massively stronger SSJ4 Gogeta so at equal power levels Omega should be able to regenerate from what Beerus has to throw at him. So we can say that Goku is the least reliable power scaler in Dragon Ball (DB) franchise. Quotes? Even base super goku solostomps GT. Goku base and Beerus had the potential to destroy the entire universe just by colliding their fists and God form the impact of their fists destroyed solar systems. So yeah he might legit be near Angle tier. I just wanna rub it in the faces of people in here who can't tell a narrative device when they see one. @karkus: Even Whis stopped Beerus and Goku's match when they were just merely "sparring". While all fusions have immense power, Gogeta's power is abnormal even by regular standards, as Vegeta and Goku's intense rivalry has brought out an exceptional power. @thelostshinobi: Repeat thread, but welcome anyway. Since Champa is weaker than Beerus,I put him 30% SSJ4 Gogeta. @karkus: I never said Beerus stomps Broly. Perhaps Gogeta could damage him, but I just think that he's above him. Universe 7 wasn’t a concept until DBS so it’s universal designation isn’t relevant. don't worry if plot wants then there will be a transformation for goku and friends to overcome beerus and everyone above him. -The only thing they know about each other is that Beerus is a god of destruction, and that SSJ4 Gogeta is a fusion of 2 saiyans ; And that each might be stronger than anything they've faced before. That's ironic. Gogeta was powerful, but more powerful than Beerus is bogus, since A). Read Gogeta vs Beerus from the story Dragon Ball Xeno: Part one by Silenttoast132 with 344 reads. I don't see Beerus stomping Broly like Gogeta did. SSB Gogeta VS UI Goku VS Beerus VS Jiren VS Broly(Battle Royale) Dragon Ball ... no one on this list is on his level, meaning if Gogeta doesn't take down Broly straight away, Broly will simply adapt and get too strong. Powers and Stats. ready to take you anytime. Not bad at all! He only said "Looks like they have managed it". We see that even Beerus seems taken aback by the power of SSJB Kaiokenx10 Goku, so surely Vegito is over his power at least by some margin. But Beerus isnt even sweating Vegeta, which causes him to use the Final Flash on Beerus in which he uses his left arm to flick the attack like nothing. I can say for 100% certainty though that Gogeta Blue >Full Power Jiren > Omen Goku 3rd time since Gogeta bodied a person with identical statements to Omen Goku at least. I'd be sweating too. MUI Goku surpasses Beerus and Jiren was able to swap hands with MUI Goku. Not with collision. Did the authors make Trunks overpowered for no particular reason other than fanservice? where his Universe is in danger of being erased where he and Whis can't intervene. The Z movie is irrelevant since after Super came out. Again, you literally have no proof whatsoever. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. During the Super's [Revival of F arc.] Still gogeta via scaling. ", while Gogeta will say "Maybe I can win against Lord Beerus now." Find me proof, all you doing is delaying the inevitable. Gogeta, one of Dragon Ball's strongest, is the Metamoran fusion of Goku and Vegeta that was introduced to us canonically during Dragon Ball Super: Broly.Being a fusion, this form increases their power level tremendously, as seen in the movie, where they … Plus, Gogeta only lasts for 30 minutes. @devoidruby: That's complete and utter BS. He didn't say that. so threats are feats now? Doesn't leave too much room for imagination xD. The only time he was serious was when he fought with Goku God form. Jiren shook the entire world of void just releasing a tiny bit of his Ki. Gogeta should win. It is the time limit and whether they manage to stay fused that is the kicker in that fight. I never said he did. That wasn't base Goku. It's pretty much been implied both in the manga and anime that Belmod is more powerful than Beerus. clearly something is wrong with that hence why scaling is as important as feats. you claim it's dumb despite seeing inferior feats...so, feats > scaling. He acknowledged Jiren was far from full power, so it's more likely he was referring to what he thought his full power was. @phantasial: Stop it, go back to wanking Naruto. When the match comes to an end, it is revealed that Belmod faked being knocked down and had taken no damage over the course of the match. so yeah, dozens of times uiversal is High multi universal. Gogeta effortlessly stomped a Beerus level enemy, he annihilates here since Beerus doesn’t get ridiculously stronger through the course of a fight like Broly does. IF Beerus and Gogeta ever fights Beerus will still win since he's never brought out his true power in a match. ?Do you not understand synonyms?? Makes sense. 30,000,000 x 100 = 3 billion. He only said "probably" and "might" when he was comparing it Beerus. Beerus, Super powerscaling is greater than GT's one. Tbh we could get clear confirmation on who wins if toei can tell us who's stronger between Vegito and beerus. Vegito should be way stronger but with how fucked super power scaling is you never know. Hope this helped. God Ki is needed in this fight, and even if SSJ4 Gogeta can damage hum with punches and kicks, it still most likely will be weaker than Beerus. spamming is not gonna change that. Now, go to 3:06 and see that Whis already knew Jiren was far from full power. He was shaking the stadium, that's the only thing there is to shake. @phantasial: Dumb comparison considering Broly and Jiren both trashed stronger versions of SSG Goku, and while yes scaling is more important in cases like that DBS and GT don’t scale to each other which is why feats are more important. @tony501: Belmod is stronger than Beerus. I would put SSJ4 Gogeta at 100%, 10% Omniking!So,he just goes full power and thrashes SSJ4 Gogeta. Beyond that fight, Goku has never saw what Beerus is capable of (anime). Goku said Broly was probably stronger than Beerus, and while he may not have seen his full power, he probably saw a decent amount in the baseball episode. Does that make a lick of sense scaling wise? Even if you disagree the basis of your argument is still dumb, cause both Gogeta and Beerus scale far above Buuhan. You don't know anything about the English language. Toppo a God of Destruction in training, the weakest God of Destruction is more powerful than Frieza. Boosting Omega Shenron's power level to Beerus level won't be enough for a victory for Omega. SSJ Broly isn't even stronger than SSJ Gogeta, who isn't that much stronger than 50x SSB Goku (Base Gogeta being around SSB Goku's level) which is nothing to ToP Omen Goku and Jiren. There's nothing to shake in a void. B). what's an Infinite of nothing? Only way you can argue Gogeta at universal is if you scale off Buuhan based on a filler scene, meanwhile Beerus would have destroyed the Macrocasm(mortal universe and otherworld) which is more impressive than what Gogeta has done by feats. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. So,Gogeta goes 100% and again,wins with even more scratches.Finally, the Omniking.I say the Omniking is stronger than SSJ4 Gogeta. There's no proof to suggest that Gogeta is even on Beerus' level.Judging by the movie.Gogeta hasn't shown anything in terms of feat wise that's even comparable to Jiren. Goku vs BeerusThanks For WatchingIn this video, I will be diving in on my personal very own personal power levels for DBZ, DBS, DBGT, DBH. User Info: SwadeDBFan2. Just can't imagine the power level of something like SSGSS3 Vegito or some crazy shit like that. anyways. He literally says that his power is on a God of Destruction or surpassed it. Clearly SSJ4 Gogeta is well worth Beerus' acknowledgement. Gogeta and Broly hasn't even shown anything that's close to what Jiren was capable of during the Tournament of Power. The only reason they don't is because they can counter their own shockwaves when they strike. I can't wait for the day we see a serious Beerus. Beerus playing around with him is reminiscent of 50% Frieza playing around with Namek-Saga Goku which was a power level difference of only ~20x. All you doing is giving implications and marketing hype from the movie's trailers and announcements. level 1. Beerus would take this mid to high dif. That's an amazing power! And Belmod never got injured by Liqeueur's attacks and at the end, Belmod was the only God of Destruction that never got injured, despite the fact that he was attacked multiple times... Belmod even confirms that "Jiren is a being that never loses, no matter who he's up against"For a someone that a God of Destruction cannot defeat means that the other individual is more powerful than the Gods. And if they did I dare you to quote me from the movie/Toriyama or Toyotaro/any legitimate proof from a credible source to say that Broly and Gogeta was on Beerus' level. Just think back to Trunks cleaving Fused Zamasu in half. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. This is a big difference between "You might be stronger" than "On-par or entered the domains and POTENTIALLY even surpassing it" Moreover Jiren's tiny little amount of Ki released made Beerus sweat like a piss fountain and when he released a "hint of his true power" made Goku revert back to his base form, because he has realised the gap between them. @tony501: In the manga:Belmod is able to damage all of the Gods of Destruction by capturing them in Imprisonment Balls and attacking with Energy Cards. When he is attacked by Liqueur's Tail Energy Cannon Barrage, Belmod takes no damage from the assault. @karkus: Might and Probably are the same? As we all know Whis is a teacher/mentor of a God of Destruction, so he knows pretty much every nooks and cranny regarding the powers of a God of Destruction. Not the same as straight up busting a universe. In August of last year, it was said that Broly was stronger than Beerus. It's just a gag episode, Champa and Beerus were never serious. I have stated that Goku was only comparing it to Beerus when he was fighting with him at the start of the Super series when attained his God form. You did, and still haven't provided any evidence. It evidently concludes that they don't think of Broly as a threat (universally) in anyway. I'm not here to let you blow smoke up my butt and tell me otherwise.Provide me with evidence or don't claim otherwise especially if you have nothing to backup your claim...I am still waiting for proof that Broly is on Beerus' level... @karkus: Try again...You don't know anything about the English language. Goku's power scaling was never 100% correct. Furthermore, many, many times has Goku been mistaken about his own and other people's power, he either always over/under estimates it. Gogeta's power is way beyond the gods of destruction, Beerus wouldn't stand a chance against him especially in the blue form. Knowing Beerus he wouldn't just stand by when he senses someone stronger than him. amrite? Whis never mentions that Broly was in a God of Destruction's domain like Jiren has when he was comparing to Beerus as a God of Destruction. His single best attack that took years upon years of stored energy, was only going to destroy the universe by polluting it with negative ki and rotting it over time. Gogeta would probably win. MUI Goku was around Beerus full power and likely a bit stronger. Now if by multiplying 10 by 30 mill = 10% then multiplying 100 = 100%. A common debate. It's more likely he compared it to Beerus when he fought Champa in Episode 69 of DBS, since that was the first time he saw a serious Beerus fight. So Arale is stronger than Vegeta and Goku is she? In Tournament of Power, Whis personally said that: "His powers has reached the domains of a God of Destruction or potentially has even surpassed it" when Jiren only released a bit of his Ki or that he was supressed heavily. SSJ Broly was also the one who fought Golden Frieza, not LSSJ Broly, who was compared to Beerus. Hit's dimensions were the size of a small building. The strongest SS4, Gogeta, fodderized Omega Shenron....who did nothing noteworthy. Well, all of those words mean more or less the same thing, as I'm sure you know. In the anime Whis implied and in the manga Belmod was the only God of Destruction to dominate several other Gods of destruction. @karkus: People are using Goku's statement where he said "You might/probably stronger than our Beerus." He was comparing it to his fight with Beerus during his first time fighting Beerus in his God form. Buu was going to destroy the mortal universe, there is nothing suggesting otherworld would have been destroyed too. Provide the evidence Beerus stomps Broly. Got in to a debate with a friend, I personally believe Gogeta can triumph Beerus but apparently his powers have been retconned to the point where he's near omnipotent. @karkus: What? Buu used Vice Shout to collapse dimensional walls and pass through them, Gogeta and Broly were shattering entire dimensions. Transformations do not matter, feats do not matter. Jiren heavily surpressed scared Beerus, to the point that he was sweating and was nearly in despair. Whis literally stated that Jiren when supressed was. Blue is an absolute mismatch tho... @chasekilleen: It was said by the director Frieza had shown growth from the ToP to Broly movie. His power remained mostly undefined throughout Super other than being much stronger than SSB. According to Goku, Beerus is around the level of Broly. Articles from a legitimate source? Prove me wrong that Gogeta Blue is not stronger than Beerus.Because Beerus never worried about Broly. This isn't like the T.O.P. this scaling are based off the official statements. IF Beerus and Gogeta ever fights Beerus will still win since he's never brought out his true power in a match. SSJ4 Gogeta isn't even on a level with SSB Goku, and normal ki can't damage Beerus, you need God Ki. That is a much better debate. That just evidently means that he was comparing it to Beerus, when he said that Jiren is on par with a God of Destruction. !AND HIS TRANSFORMING INTO IT WITHOUT BEING FUSED IN THEIR SUPER SAIYAN 4 STATE. They aren't. Intent: To Kill, Gogeta is NOT playing around. beerus via feats locks at universal. @karkus: Why are you comparing feats to a gag episode? What is Beerus's level? Yeah, they show something is possible, but the words connote varying degrees of likelihood. SSJG was already at the very least hundreds of times more powerful than SSJ3 Goku, and on top of that, SSJB is significantly more powerful than SSJG. He's also had the training of Whis, and Angel and the most powerful being in Universe 6 (I think it's 6, maybe 7). I personally like Gogeta more, so for me, he wins. I can see what you were going for, beerus and goku weren't busting the universe either, they were causing magical waves that didn't bust the universe either. Goku stated that Broly might even surpass Beerus. SSJ4 Gogeta, or Vegito if he existed, don't stand a chance. His power will be retconned until he's more powerful than Zeno, Seriously Goku should wipe the floor with him by realistic scaling even without UI, OT: I think it's been established that Super>GT in terms of power so Beerus should win. Stomp. ... least equal to Gogeta if not stronger since Beerus wasn't even that interested even when he sensed both Broly's and Gogeta's power. Keep in mind this is Vegeta post Battle of Gods, Golden Frieza, Universe 6 vs 7, Black Goku/Future Trunks arc. Whether stronger or not Broly is hovering around that Area and Gogeta stomped him. Thx for watching Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_.attila._145/ Gogeta 100x BBK > Gogeta SS4 (dozens of times stronger than an SS4) > SS4 (>= SS vegito) > SS vegito > Buuhan (near-universal). Gogeta vs Beerus Power Levels - Dragon Ball Super - YouTube I don't recall Jiren bursting his way out of a dimension via force or anything like that. I could point to some scaling, but why should I bother. your argument is headcanon, the ''multiverse'' wasn't a thing, but the fact that the otherworld is a part of the universe was emphasised. SS4 Gogeta simply lay for having the coolest design in the Dragonball lore. That was the ever-expanding, strength gaining shockwaves, not the impact. Please OP, this is so one sided. I know that Vegito wasn’t able to win, especially due to the time limit. @phantasial: Threatning to bust the universe multiple times casually>>>>deflecting a ball that would gradually errode the universe. THE POWER GOGETA IS GIVING OFF IS BEYOND REAL!! The fact he took years to build that much energy shows OS himself is actually even weaker than that, so beating him isn't really much of an achievement here. ?They never said MUI "might" be stronger than Beerus... Beerus and Whis themselves even acknoledged that Goku in MUI has already surpassed Beerus.When did they say "might"?Give me the direct quote... @karkus: I'm talking about how the dubbed said it. cat dies. How many times do we have to keep debunking this? Lack of evidence. Never has Whis nor anyone else stated that Broly nor Gogeta was more powerful. @mainjp: There's no proof whatsoever to indicate Gogeta stronger than Beerus. there is no scaling that puts him above that. proof? Tier: Low 2-C | At least Low 2-C. Name: Gogeta Origin: Dragon Ball. In other words, anyone with twice the energy (power) of Beerus would be 2-C. @Hizack123 Goku outright states that Broly is 'probably' stronger than Beerus. Manga Beerus knows Ultra Instinct (Omen), and judging how full powered Broly couldn't even touch a casual Whis. Then Gogeta f*#ed around on Broly, so that puts Gogeta around Beerus level aswell, maybe above it, but its safest to say that he's 'around' that level. So,SSJ4 Gogeta does the same thing like last time except,he toys around with him more and goes 50%.Since Vados is stronger than Whis,I put her at 90% SSJ4 Gogeta. If Broly was on Beerus'level, you would think the least he can do is gravely injure Frieza? @deathwingterminatort1000: Please tell me how SSJ4 Gogeta does not stand up to SSB Goku, @deathwingterminatort1000: yea ik lol I was just fucking around with that post lmao. And Jiren is the only being next to Goku Ultra Instinct that's shown to be able to can fight on par with Beerus' level. They all show that something is possible. Please OP, this is so one sided. In Super, it's never stated which percentage Beerus actually used so it's difficult to judge. Unlikely and probably both show something is possible, but the latter connotes that it's more likely than the former. Beerus one shots all of GT. He has seen Beerus going all out in the manga (GoDs battle royale) and in the anime (Beerus vs Champa). Base Gogeta (DBS) vs. Vegito Blue (DBS) Considering how insane and ludicrous the scaling and power creep between each arc is in DBS, I thought this would be an interesting match. Meaning he is much stronger than he was before. SSJB Vegito or Gogeta- if that ever happened, would be a way better match up. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Thanks, I needed a light- Sanji. As proven when Jiren said: "Both of your attacks are sharper" and when Goku Blue Kaioken + Vegeta Blue Evolution was attacking Jiren, Jiren tanked in all those hits and he was largely still sealing his powers off and during the Saiyan's assualt, never once did Jiren release anymore power/Ki nor his face expressions changed to a slightly more annoyed expression. Beerus power level at 100% is around 3 billion. When Jiren was heavily supressed, Whis states that 'His power enters the domain of the God of Destruction, or even surpassed it'. Frieza was literally there for 1 hour fighting Broly and not only was he able to have a few bruises and injury, but he was CONSCIOUS and he WAS IN HIS GOLDEN FORM! @mainjp: When Broly attacked Frieza in his Golden form for an hour, not only Frieza didn't sustain any life threatening injuries, but Frieza was still in his Golden form.Toppo a God of Destruction in training, theorectically the weakest God of Destruction, absolutely thrashed Frieza without trying whatsoever and Jiren knocked Frieza out cold in one shot.Gogeta smashing dimensions is nothing new since Super Buu nearly succeded in doing that whilst Gohan was absorbed.That's not impressive at all... Jiren's 'hint of his true power' made Goku revert back to his base form, because he realized how powerful he truly was and Vegeta said that Jiren's Ki was the 'heaviest ki I have ever felt'. In my honest opinion it's Beerus. Ssj-ssj2 gogeta would be a good fight for beerus. Gogeta is the Metamoran Fusion of Goku and Vegeta, formed to defeat Broly. I don't remember if Gogeta was even used in DBZ or it was just DBGT, but I know Vegito was used in the Buu Saga and was insanely powerful in comparison. That literally makes no sense whatsoever. In the movie, just the standard Super Saiyan power-up was enough for him to beat the crap out of Frieza for about an hour and it took the combined might of both Vegeta and Goku (literally) to finally take the big beast down. Already did. There's nothing outright saying that he's on Beerus'level, again that's not Beerus' level. The same can't be said while fighting Broly. It was heavily implied that in both manga and anime that Belmod is stronger than Beerus. Bias against GT or Super aside, who would win? then again gogeta can just kill the supreme kai and easily neg, Beerus grabs Gogeta by hair and says hakai. That says Gogeta or Broly is on Beerus'level. R2: Depends on whether Gogeta Blue held back against Broly or not. He thrashed Goku Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken X20 and tanked in hits from Goku Kaioken Blue and Vegeta Blue Evolution whilst still surpressed. Furthermore, Full power SSJ Broly couldn’t even land a single finger on Gogeta once he used SSB. filler is canon to GT so i'm not sure why it's brought up. Provide me with evidence or don't claim otherwise. He didn't have to be, he and Whis were right there and free to stop him if need be. Meanwhile SSB is an advancement of a form that could physically destroy the universe with shockwaves from physical attacks. It meant the destruction of his universe if his team loses. In the movie Beerus knew that Goku and Vegeta could handle it and if Broly really did potentially endanger Beerus' position as a God of Destruction then why didn't Whis or Beerus himself intervene? Yes. And? Beerus via superior feats and even better scaling. SSJ4 Gogeta vs. Beerus. Yeah, but we can get an idea that he used a good amount when he fought Champa in the baseball episode. In the 40 minutes we've seen Jiren broke Goku's and Vegeta's limits many, many times, by giving them a massive Zenkai boost. And go to 3:06. That means no Bluff Kamehamehas from SSJ4 Gogeta nor a portion of own's power used by Beerus (AKA Full power used). Gogeta Blue stomped someone comparable to Beerus without much effort, meaning Gogeta is likely much stronger than that. The power levels for both these characters are unclear but it is implied that SSJB is beyond anything we've seen. Goku said that Beerus while sleeping is using his unretstrained power or that in the [Majin Buu arc] he said that he could take out Kid Buu, but his body gave up on him and during the entire fight Kid Buu and Goku SSJ3 was on par with each other. there was no mention of a ''mortal'' part, universe only. But he has better skill, can use hakai and UIO. He has Whis to protect him, and is a good match for Broly himself. Going by feats for one character while scaling for the other is stupid, especially when Beerus(the character with feats) would scale massively above Buuhan as well. SSJB Gogeta roflstomped a Beerus level fighter. He was just chilling and keeping an eye on everyone's Ki. Jiren would easily thrash Broly when he's heavily surpressed. SSB Gogeta VS UI Goku VS Beerus VS Jiren VS Broly(Battle Royale) Dragon Ball - General This is ... a Spirit Bomb that was stated later in the Tournament to rival SS2 Kefla in raw power, ... since we don't know what level of UI Beerus has access to. As you can see, there is no reasonable arguement that can put Gogeta anywhere near the kind of power even an SSB possesses, much less Beerus. Judging by what we see in the movie Gogeta Blue hasn't shown anything that's comparable to Jiren in Tournament of Power. Really, nothing to compare to Jiren and Toppo's feats, nor Mastered UI and C). And his statement was solely basing it off of the Beerus in [God of Destruction arc]. Gogeta via having an awesome design, beyond anything seen in Super. If we go by feats over scaling then we end up with stuff like SSG Ritual Goku > Jiren/broly. Beerus in the manga pretty much bested the entire other Gods of Destruction and also without trying whatsoever one hit KO'ED Vegeta in his Mastered Super Saiyan Blue form, a form that's on par with Vegito Blue and he took Vegeta out in one shot, that's when he was serious, to teach Vegeta a lesson to not be cocky. Even if he did, this is a battle between him and Beerus, he's not gonna let him leave and find the Supreme Kai. GG. Because Super Saiyen God or ssg goku was 70% of beerus. If the two brothers were serious then they would've actually released more of their Ki's. @chasekilleen: Vegito in the Black Arc was said to rival Beerus by Shin in the manga, I feel like Post ToP he surpassed him given the fact it was said Gogeta=Vegito in one of the guid book I saw once for the movie, there is also the fact Jiren is confirmed by the angels to be high GoD Tier And stronger than Belmod who I believe is in the Top 5 strongest GoDs with Beerus and quitela at the Top with Jiren in their level more or less(Beerus can’t be that much stronger than Belmod) And Broly is evry bit as strong as Jiren or maybe more in raw power given Freiza’s statement and Goku’s as well, he also outmatched SSj Gogeta who is already in the GoDs range of power given the fact his base form is stronger than Blue Goku/Vegeta by the lock on piccolo when they fuse, Now Broly does lack the skills and experience Beerus has but Gogeta power is so great he can overcome it with nearly equal skills anyway given the fact he has Goku and Vegeta but I still favor Beerus due to UI, Hakai can be a factor but I think Gogeta will overpower it like Vegeta did to Toppo, UI is also a factor but unless he has its mastered form Beerus won’t beat him tho I feel like he has something under his sleeve given how unthreatened he was from Broly/Jiren when he encounters them tho MUI Goku did made him give his respect but there was no fear as tho Goku become his equal and not his superior, in the end Gogeta has to much power to lose his skills are enough to compete with any GoDs and just like Jiren didn’t need UI to match Goku so doesn’t Gogeta need to beat Beerus who’s only chance is if in fact he has mastered UI and keeps everyone in the dark for sports as he usually does when he fights given how strong he is. 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